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webasto integruota i ausinimo sistema. paleidziant priverstinai gali buti kad nera cirkuliacijos, su senesne karta automobiliais taip buvo.
kad tau reikia geriau ne su webasto meistru susitikti, bet su tuo kas bmw koduoja. tegul paziuri kas ir kaip. kartu ir webasto patikrins.

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Panasiai irgi galvojau pradzioj. Reiks prasichekint kazkur del idomumo.


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Neina prisijunkt prie jos valdymo bloko. Reiskiasi protas jos nusproges. nusipirkau kita, desiu, ziuresiu ar ta veiks :D


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Sendien nuo pultelio ijungiau tai sniokste ji ten ilgai. Siek tiek pasylde. Kiek ten ja reikia laikyt, kad jaustusi siluma nuormaliai?


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gal tu paskaititum truputi apie webasto. nors ir wds pradziai. idomiau jungineti kai nors truputi supranti kas ir kodel vyksta.

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General information on the auxiliary heating system of the E65

This document provides general information as well as the procedure in the case of a locked auxiliary heating system.
Information on locked auxiliary heating unit

Causes of a fault lock-out can be:

Undervoltage cutout
Overheating protection function triggered
Lack of fuel

That is, a fault lock-out occurs when a fault is detected during operation and the auxiliary heating system switches off. Thereafter, the auxiliary heating system only needs to be switched off ones with the telestart transmitter to cancel the fault lock-out.

After three successive faults without successful combustion, the heater lock is activated.

Unlocking the heater lock:

The service function 'Unlock auxiliary heating system' must be run AND then the fuse of the auxiliary heating system (cut off voltage) must be pulled.
General information and notes

Information regarding disruption-free use of the auxiliary heating system.

Avoid undervoltage; check the battery and alternator; explain the problem of short distance driving to the customer. In the case of undervoltage, it can also occur that the integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system (IHKA) does not send a start telegram to the auxiliary heating system and thus no independent heating is possible. Please always read out the IHKA fault code memory and/or include it in the diagnosis of the independent heating.
When the fuel tank is at reserve, auxiliary heating is not possible in any situation. There does not have to be a fault lock-out.
Smoking: the auxiliary heating system is a vaporizing burner, i.e. during short-distance driving the burner receives a rich mixture a number of times and smoke can develop due to the design principle. The short combustion phases mean there is no burn-off.


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Functional description of independent/auxiliary heater E65

The independent and/or auxiliary heater (SH_ZH) is an integral part of the heating and air-conditioning system. The SH_ZH provides heat output inside the vehicle that is not dependent on the engine. The control unit is fitted directly on the heater. Communication in the overall vehicle takes place by means of K-CAN telegrams based on KWP 2000. The SH_ZH takes over activation of the components necessary for operation shown in the brief description of components.
Brief description of components
Control unit, independent/auxiliary heater

The function of the SH_ZH control unit must be ensured when the voltage supply is applied. The activation (switching on and off) always takes place in normal operation via K CAN telegram. The control unit is the central component and it communicates alongside the independent/auxiliary heating components with the DME/DDE, the CAS, the IHKA and the instrument cluster, which jointly ensure the correct operating mode of the independent/auxiliary heating. The control unit consists of the control unit, the temperature sensor, the overheating protection, the heat conductor and the connecting strip. The control unit is vented by the combustion-air chamber of the burner via an air hose. Together with the burner housing, the control unit forms a single unit and must not be disassembled.
Burner housing

The burner housing contains a coolant inlet and outlet and the exhaust-gas outlet connection. The burner housing accommodates the burner insert and together with the control unit forms a single unit.
Combustion-air fan unit

The combustion-air fan unit contains the combustion-air fan, the opening for the fuel line and the opening for the fuel supply connection. The combustion-air fan delivers the air needed for combustion to the burner insert.
Burner insert

The fuel is distributed in the burner tube in the burner insert. Combustion of the fuel/air mixture takes place in the burner tube.
Heater plug/flame monitor

The heater plug/flame monitor located in the burner insert ignites the fuel-air mixture when the heater is started. After starting, heater plug/flame monitor takes on the task of the flame monitor. The heater plug/flame monitor is an electrical resistor. When the heater plug/flame monitor is active, there is cyclical static monitoring of the heater plug resistance. -> Heater-filament breakage detection.
Circulation pump (water pump of independent/auxiliary heater)

The circulation pump is only fitted in the Thermo Top C, i.e. independent and auxiliary heater and mounted on the combustion-air fan unit. The circulation pump ensure a flow of coolant in the vehicle/heater circuit. The pump is activated by the control unit and runs throughout the entire operation of the independent/auxiliary heater. In the event of repairs, the circulation pump can be replaced separately.
Metering pump (fuel metering pump of independent/auxiliary heater)

The metering pump serves to supply the fuel from the vehicle's fuel tank. In the event of repairs, the metering pump can be replaced separately.
Changeover valve

The changeover valve switches between two separate water circuits: the engine coolant circuit and the independent heater circuit. At zero current, the changeover valve is set to the engine coolant circuit. In the event of repairs, the changeover valve can be replaced separately.
Integrated automatic heating/air conditioning

The independent/auxiliary heater is an integral part of the IHKA integrated heating and air-conditioning system. The IHKA controls the independent/auxiliary heater in all operating modes.
Digital Motor/Diesel Electronics

The Digital Motor/Diesel Electronics DME/DDE transmits cyclically every 200 ms the engine operating state engine on or off, which is evaluated by the auxiliary/independent heater.
Car Access System

The Car Access System CAS transmits cyclically every 500 ms the terminal status e.g. terminal R, terminal 15, which is evaluated by the independent/auxiliary heater.
Central Gateway Module

The Central Gateway Module (ZGM) connects the byteflight, K-CAN, PT-CAN data buses and the diagnostic bus.
Remote control for independent-heating functions

The independent-heating functions are activated by pressing the buttons on the remote control. In turn, the functions are actually executed by means of IHKA telegrams to the auxiliary/independent heater.
Main functions

There are three different main functions. Independent heating, auxiliary heating and pseudo auxiliary heating.

Implausibility

When criteria are identified which call for the auxiliary/independent heater to be deactivated, it is first necessary to wait for the IHKA OFF command. Therefore, in this case, the auxiliary/independent heater starts a codable timer (default value: 10 seconds) within which the IHKA OFF signal must come. if it does not come, the auxiliary heating system switches off automatically and sends its status ”Off due to implausible operating mode”. This must be acknowledged by the IHKA (integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system) to enable a new start.
Independent heating, petrol/gasoline and diesel

For independent heating, the outside temperature must lie below 16°C in the case of preselected switching time. Direct switching on via the Control Display is possible at all times.

Switch-on conditions (each of the following points must be satisfied - AND condition)

Telegram switch on SH_ZH (telegram comes from the IHKA and can be triggered by a preselected switch-on time at the Control Display, direct operation selection at the Control Display, Telestarter.)
No fault
No fault lockout of heater
Engine OFF
Range for fuel quantity more than 50 kilometres

Switch-off conditions (each of the following points necessitates switching off of the independent-heating procedure or prevents switching on - OR condition)

Telegram switch off SH_ZH (telegram comes from the IHKA and can be triggered by Control Display, direct operation deselection at the Control Display, telestarter, heating time elapsed)
Fault
Heating time elapsed (usually 30 minutes)
10 seconds implausibility (see Implausibility with independent heating)
Undervoltage detected

Implausibilities / criteria (each of the following points necessitates switching off of the independent-heating procedure - OR condition)

Status, engine running
Operating mode not equal to independent heating
Deactivation of stationary consumers by power module
Undervoltage

Auxiliary heating, diesel only

In conjunction with the IHKA, the independent/auxiliary heater acts as an auxiliary heater to increase the heat output if needed.

Switch-on conditions (each of the following points must be satisfied - AND condition)

Telegram switch on SH_ZH (telegram comes from the IHKA and auxiliary-heating conditions must be satisfied)
No fault
Status, engine running
Terminal 15 ON

Switch-off conditions (each of the following points necessitates switching off of the auxiliary-heating procedure or prevents switching on - OR condition)

Telegram switch off SH_ZH (auxiliary-heating conditions not satisfied)
Fault
10 seconds implausibility (see Implausibility with auxiliary heating)
Undervoltage detected

Implausibilities / criteria (each of the following points necessitates switching off of the auxiliary-heating procedure - OR condition)

Status goes from engine running to engine off
Terminal 15 OFF
Operating mode not equal to auxiliary heating
Undervoltage
Missing telegrams from IHKA, CAS, DME (communication check)

Pseudo auxiliary heating

The newly introduced pseudo auxiliary heating serves to increase comfort and is intended to prevent the changeover valve from being switched over to the large engine coolant circuit during the auxiliary-heating phase when the engine is started - which would result in a drop in the heating-water temperature and thus in reduced heat output.

Switch-on conditions (each of the following points must be satisfied - AND condition) Precondition is that independent heating is operating and the transition from ”Engine not running” to ”Engine running” is detected.

Telegram switch on SH_ZH (telegram comes from the IHKA and is transmitted from terminal R cyclically, even with independent heating)
Condition, pseudo auxiliary heating set (coding bit = 1)
No fault
Terminal 15 ON
Status, engine running

Switch-off conditions (each of the following points necessitates switching off of the pseudo auxiliary-heating procedure or prevents switching on - OR condition) A distinction must be made between petrol/gasoline and diesel engines

Operating mode auxiliary heating (diesel only), pseudo auxiliary heating or changeover valve off -> transition to auxiliary-heating mode
Telegram switch off SH_ZH, reasons can be: Direct OFF, auxiliary-heating conditions not satisfied, petrol engine
Fault
10 seconds implausibility
Undervoltage

Implausibility / criteria (each of the following points necessitates switching off of the pseudo auxiliary-heating procedure - OR condition)

Status, terminal 15 OFF
Status, engine OFF
IHKA must switch to auxiliary heating
Operating mode not equal to pseudo auxiliary heating
Undervoltage
Missing telegrams from IHKA, CAS, DME (communication check)

Service functions

Overheating lock

In the event of a temperature-control failure or partial overheating, e.g. as a result of a lack of water, the overheating protection switches off the independent/auxiliary heater permanently. If the overheating lock is activated, an entry is made in the fault memory of the independent/auxiliary heater.

Heater lock

The auxiliary heating system is permanently locked if three malfunctions or three faults relevant to operation have occurred in sequence - i.e. without correct operation in between. For example, lack of fuel on a number of occasions could lead to failure to generate a flame. Here, the heater lock is activated, which leads to an entry in the fault code memory of the auxiliary heating system. This fault is not identical to the overheating lock fault.

Fault

The fault lockout occurs when a fault is detected during operation and the auxiliary heating unit switches off.

Restart

Fault
It only needs to be switched OFF once to cancel the fault lockout. It can then be restarted.
Heater lock
The heater lock is unlocked using the service function ”Unlock auxiliary heating system” AND then by pulling the fuse of the auxiliary heating system (disconnect power).

Country and coding versions

Country versions

No country versions present.

Coding versions

The independent/auxiliary heater is coded once at the factory. A distinction is made between petrol/gasoline and diesel-coded independent/auxiliary heaters. The independent/auxiliary heater cannot be coded in the dealer organisation.

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Na va. Pagaliau isidejau Thermo Top C veikianti, Buvo ir pas mane Thermo Top C. Dirba lyg ir. Deja nuo pultelio nepasileidzia, nors prie senos neveikiancios Webastos jis buvo. (Minejo kad Webastos pultelis priristas prie pacios masinos, ne Webastos, tai turetu veikti). Ir kai uzstaciau taimeri snd 09.30, maciau per langa kad isijunge Webasta, ateinu 09.45 - salonas prisildytas, taciau variklio nepasilde, o tai man yra aktualiausia. Gal ka ne taip darau? :/ beje gal zinot kaip ta pulteli webastos priporuot prie masinos?

Update: Pavyko priporuot prie masinos paciam. ikisi normalu rakteli i spynele jei taip galima pavadint, istrauki. Iskart nieko nelaukes ispaudi webastos OFF mygtuka ir laikai ir tris kartus On mygtuka. Masina atsirakino/uzsirakino - prisiporavo.
Dabar kaip isprest problema su varikliu.. :) Noriu kad sildytu uzgesinta varikli, imanoma kaip nors padaryt?


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Cia pas visus e65/66 ta webasta buna ? Niekad nesusimasciau iki siol ar mano auto gali ja turet.


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Cia pas visus e65/66 ta webasta buna ? Niekad nesusimasciau iki siol ar mano auto gali ja turet.

Tikrai ne.


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Uzsidege perspejimas, kad baterija webastos pultelio senka. Pakeiciau nauja, bet pranesimas nedingsta. Ka, reikia jungtis prie diagnostikos ar galima kaip tai nuresetint?


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sveiki reikia pagalbos.per avarija nukentejo vebasta ji isimta ir ismesta kaip man atsikasti jos koda koks turi priklausyti.skambinau i krasta pagal win. dave koda 64126933259.auto e65 3,0d 2003 09 03 kazkaip pardavime devetu tokiu nera sako gali buti atnaujinti kodai krastos.ka daryt?


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Sveiki,
Nusprogo webasto valdymas (thermo top c, t.y.su cirkuliaciniu siurbliuku. Webasta galima programuot su laikmaciu), turiu gera webasta (thermo top z, be siurbliuko). Ar galima ta Z versija prikoduot, kad ji veiktu kaip C? Webasto turi siurbliuko pajungimo vieta, bet problema tame, jog per ncs expert nematau shzh modulio, todel negaliu jos perkoduoti. Inpa ar rheingold puikiai mato C webasto, galima ja paleisti, taciau meginant per idrive aktyvuoti aux heating, fiksuojama klaida del netinkamo kodavimo.
Gal kas galit padet, kaip prie shzh prisijungt per ncs expert'a? Jei tai imanoma? Jei ne, su kokia programa galima perkoduoti shzh moduli?


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